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[andrewlang16]

I know theres varying opinions on this but I was just wondering. And i even had somebody at the hospital admit that they do make you less happy. All I know is that when I was off these drugs for a period of four months I was the happiest I've ever been in my life. So much joy. Anyways my other question is do you guys know if the antipsychotics can permanently change your brain in such a way that even after you come off the drugs you still feel the same way?

-- Thu May 17, 2012 6:22 am --

idk if this was the right forum for this question but if not could somebody point me in the direction of someplace else where I might get answers to these questions?

[Copy_Cat]

Zyprexa caused in me "anhedonia".

Anhedonia is defined as the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. exercise, hobbies, sexual activities or social interactions. While earlier definitions of anhedonia emphasized the pleasurable experience, more recent models have highlighted the need to consider different aspects of enjoyable behavior, such as motivation or desire to engage in an activity ("motivational anhedonia"), as compared to the level of enjoyment of the activity itself ("consummatory anhedonia") .

Music I had loved sounded flat and had no feel good effect at all, the same thing with driving the car, a fun hilly curvy road had no "fun" effect at all on that neuroleptic "antipsychotic" brain poison called zyprexa.

The motivational anhedonia was the worst, nothing feels good so why do anything ? was the feeling of that.

In humans, drugs that reduce dopamine activity (neuroleptics, e.g. antipsychotics) have been shown to reduce motivation, cause anhedonia (inability to experience pleasure), and long-term use has been associated with irreversible tardive dyskinesia (movement disorder).Selective D2/D3 agonists pramipexole and ropinirole, used to treat Restless legs syndrome, have limited anti-anhedonic properties as measured by the Snaith-Hamilton Pleasure Scale (SHAPS). http://www.news-medical.net/health/Dopa ... tions.aspx

[Rod]

The coercive shrinks know that psychosis is a state that is bought about by some combination of anger, guilt and shame. But they pretend that it's a medical condition. They know that a psychotic person is likely to dismiss a medical explanation. Because however inarticulate the person may be they know what they know.

The coercive shrinks have been recruited from a group of people that the public generally trust. Medical practitioners know that they can become psychiatrists any time they like but most would never do it. Some will, they studied medicine because they had a hatred for people and themselves. They then thought that they could justify themselves by surrounding themselves with people who were sick or injured.

I worked as a registered nurse for 20 years in Melbourne. I worked in major public hospitals, ER, OR, regular medical/surg, psych, obgyn, paeds, geri....
I'm also a guy who has a son and a daughter in their 20's. Great kids that don't seem to mind at all that their father enjoyed and will hopefully always enjoy illicit drugs, motorbikes, music etc.

Here in Victoria, Australia quite a number of coercive psychiatrists have become so by way of first working as medical practitioners in HIV/AIDS. Their overseers have seen the way they behave so disgracefully with their patients that they have recommended that they proceed to psychiatry. It serves at least two purposes. It gets these idiots out of medicine. And the psychs know that since their new member is as guilty as sin that he will never spill the beans.

OK after all that, don't take their drugs. The intention is to dull your pleasure and so your motivation to resist. They know it works to quell protest. You can easily survive a few weeks or months and still return to normal. The shrinks know however that if you return to normal you will want to kill them.

Depending upon your situation (financial, housing, support of friends) you may be able to call their bluff by simply refusing to swallow or refuse to allow yourself to be injected. If you are confident that you can retain and recount your situation you may be able to forcibly resist drugging. You could say that you will use all your attributes to kill a person who attempts to drug you. You could say that you might pretend to allow them to get close and that you will then do what you can to kill them.

If you are drugged against your will you can recover within a few weeks.

If you allow the blockheads to drug you for an extended period you are a blockhead and it is not worth my while caring about you.

[Narshe81]

I was given injections of Invega Sustenna at 100mg a month for 10 months. It gave me severe anhedonia about two weeks or so after my first injection. I am now three and a half months off the drug and my condition hasn't improved at all. I still suffer from a number of side effects including anhedonia which is really torturous. I am scared to death that this could be permanent from what I have been reading online.

[Razael]

they sure do, I know from refusing to get injected a few times that landed me in hospital and they never acknowledged my complaints of loss of joy and love, its a real love killer...it does damage in all sorts of ways to true potentials but you are supposed to get them back when you get off them, maybe it will take time depending on who you are etc, I know it only takes me to be overdue for injection and i start feeling normal again...this time I had a celebrity crush that kept me going through hospital and they thought I was treatment resistant coz she released a song that I thought was about me, I talked about it on razaels thread, so nothing much wrong with me but when I first got their I thought I could be friends with this celbrity, I had my charms and brightness in my mind and everythi9ng really good I even have wings etc but the drugs dull all that now I don't have a chance in hell with this chick and my love destroyed even though she comes to me all the time and I know I have crush on her but can't feel anything..they say no love lost coz its not in reality, just a figment of my imagination and much healthier to love someone real not a celebrity, but it doesn't work..

hey sorry I still going on about my love life, its not happening thanks to antipsychotics, less joy although the celebrity stood by me through the treatment and I was treatment resistant, I feel more joy...try diaphram breathing to clean you system and stick with it, I should stick with it it cleans the system of impurities, takes a while before you see benefits, or try to remember who you are, although that might be depressing if you can't be who and all you are from the treatments...sorry I got no advice....I also had thing with extradimentional beings that seemed to help me continue my voyage even after antipsychotic ruined my love and joy, they helped me a bit if only I could find a way to get closer to them again to share them wiuth everyone, since they resonate with consciousness and expand the horizons enough to make antipsychotics useless...they say this is a delusion.

I think I was saying that the quacks are ignorant about the anhedonia and loss of joy and love , they make out its a symptom probably, not sure exactly what they make of it but it isn't good they ignore it, more should be done to educate them on the effects of their drugs.

-- Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:40 pm --

maybe I should keep the celbrity thing in my own thread, sorry......my thread in early days talked about coming off the antipsychotics and going against CTO in victoria then I went to hospital recently after this track came on the radio and I tried to connect with her finding her facebook, I got blocked but that is enough on that matter I shouldn't have told her which hospital i was in as she was coming to australia, just cheeky as if she could help me, but she has and still does exc ept I talk too much about it and risk ruining my visions of her.

[karhu6]

It's been a long time for me since I've been on anti-psych meds (over 10 years), but as a child I remember feeling numb, like a zombie. I slept for most of the day, and my emotions were very dull, both happy and sad. When I did feel something, it was violent rage or paranoid delusions.

[Narshe81]

It has been living with this anhedonia for over a year now. Started a week or so after my first neuroleptic injection, and now I am 3 months and a half away from the last injection and still no improvement.

Can I really recover from this...?

[P0ci]

The funny part is a shrink will just call anhedonia depression and pump you full of more drugs like SSRIs.

Whole psychiatric system is bs. And they spoon feed it to us.

[Copy_Cat]

In humans, drugs that reduce dopamine activity (neuroleptics, e.g. antipsychotics) have been shown to reduce motivation, cause anhedonia (inability to experience pleasure), and long-term use has been associated with irreversible tardive dyskinesia (movement disorder).Selective D2/D3 agonists pramipexole and ropinirole, used to treat Restless legs syndrome, have limited anti-anhedonic properties as measured by the Snaith-Hamilton Pleasure Scale (SHAPS). http://www.news-medical.net/health/Dopamine-Functions.aspx

That link was DUMBED DOWN !

See the it as it was when I posted it http://web.archive.org/web/20120511191829/http://www.news-medical.net/health/Dopamine-Functions.aspx

[Wrecked2]

As said earlier in the posts here, antipsychotics cause anhedonia by suppressing the dopaminergic system in the brain. When a patient mention this, doctors most often think of it as a symptom of depression or similar which is just sad and dangerous considering the safety of the patient.